I wrote this post about proofreading training years ago. However, I'm confident the advice still stands. While these days I work primarily for indie fiction authors who find me via organic search, I think publisher work is still incredibly valuable.
How far will training get you in the editorial freelancing market?
Publishers and editorial freelancers understand each other. We have the same expectations regarding the level of editing being undertaken (e.g. developmental, line/copy, proofreading), which saves both parties time. Publishers are in a position to offer repeat work, thus taking some of the stress out of marketing. Plus the portfolio- and testimonial-building opportunities are excellent. And so while the rates are sometimes an issue (though not always by any means), publishers are a brilliant client group to target. It's therefore important to bear in mind where they see the value when hiring editorial freelancers. Here's what I found out ... Is training useless? I’ve just landed on a blog where the author calls proofreading courses a "scam" and "unnecessary", and the qualifications "useless". The rant continues, the author arguing that they’ve never been asked to produce evidence of any qualification or completion of a course by an "official" body. And luckily for anyone looking to enter this extraordinarily crowded and competitive field, said author offers a far cheaper alternative to all those "rip-off" courses: their very own proofreading course in the form of an ebook. Back in 2005, I spent seven months doing just the type of course this author was decrying. I opted for Essential Proofreading, a distance learning course run by the Publishing Training Centre (PTC), an industry-recognized body. I also joined the Chartered Institute of Editing and Proofreading (CIEP), formerly the SfEP, and did the necessaries to qualify for membership. So did I waste my money? Was I ripped off? Did the training I took on help me get to where I am now or was I kidding myself? Should I have instead invested in an ebook course that would have given me change from a twenty-pound note? I discussed this issue with some of my clients, all of whom are established and respected publishing houses or project management services in the UK. What came out of the conversation led me to conclude that the training I undertook was definitely worthwhile, and membership of the CIEP/SfEP has provided me with wonderful information-sharing opportunities as well as the right to advertise in their Directory of Editorial Services. Nevertheless, there was much food for thought in the responses I received. Thumbs up for training courses … Out of House Publishing consider only the CIEP/SfEP and PTC courses to be "useful and relevant" and Managing Director Jo Bottrill stated that he "certainly consider[s] freelancers who have completed such training much more seriously". Constable & Robinson’s website states, "Please note our minimum requirements include training from recognized establishments such as SfEP or the Publishing Training Centre." Aimée Feenan from Ashgate concurs, saying that most Ashgate staff have undertaken some sort of training at the PTC, and knowing that freelance staff are able to work to the same editorial standards means they are more likely to be hired. They also recognize the CIEP/SfEP as a trusted source. And at SAGE Publishing, training is considered important, with the CIEP/SfEP and PTC again being the two most trusted external suppliers. Elizabeth Clack at Edward Elgar felt "that the Publishing Training Centre and CIEP/SfEP courses are good quality and are well-regarded, so it would be a plus point if someone had taken courses with them, although that's not to say that we would only consider freelances who had taken courses with these bodies". She added, "it indicates to us that the freelance has reached a certain level of proficiency and has some understanding of editing/proofreading procedures and 'best practice'. Training is especially relevant if the freelance does not yet have much work experience." Also of note here the fact that she felt that proofreading courses took away some of the risk of the unknown when taking on a new or inexperienced freelancer. But training in itself is not enough … Training in itself is not always enough, and some publishers feel they have had their fingers burned by relying too much on freelancers’ training credits. Increasingly publishers are using their own tests in order to evaluate competence. Jo Bottrill was cautious of advanced membership and accreditation status within the CIEP/SfEP, feeling that these did not always ensure that a freelancer met his exacting standards. Instead, he's "put[ting] more emphasis on the assessment of our own tests and analysis of live jobs. Our quality control and reporting procedures have developed over the last couple of years to ensure we have an appropriate safety net." For Edward Elgar, "another factor when considering whether to work with a freelance is whether they have experience in a particular subject area, because many of our books are quite specialized. For instance, freelances working on our law books may have law qualifications or a background in legal work." Ian Antcliff, one of SAGE Publications’ senior production editors, stated that training, though important, is seen as an add-on. For him, in-house experience makes for an attractive prospect, not because the editors/proofreaders are better, but rather because "it usually ensures that they are sympathetic to and understand the pressure that in-house staff are under (especially with regard to budgets and deadlines)". Ashgate acknowledge that not every freelancer on their books has received formal editorial training – they do have people who were just exceptionally good at learning on the job and being an expert in a particular subject area is also a real plus. Polity’s production manager, Neil de Cort, takes a stronger line. For him, a speculative letter with a list of training courses is of no relevance. Like most publishers, Polity receive a large number of speculative letters every year from freelancers looking for work. Experience counts every time – Neil wants to see that a freelancer has experience of working in the social sciences, and references from other publishers are key. Completion of a training course alone simply won’t get you on their books. Confidence to take on the task The training I’ve completed to date did indeed get me looked at by several clients when I was starting out. Polity, though, gave me work because of my knowledge of their field of publishing and a good reference from Salt Publishing. Constable & Robinson noticed me, despite the fact that I already met their minimum requirements, because of a recommendation from the Edward Elgar production team. However, proofreading books published by the likes of Cambridge University Press, Polity and SAGE, who, like all of my clients, have precise and exacting publishing standards, can be daunting to the newbie. And expanding into new publishing genres, in my case from the social sciences to trade, is a different type of challenge. Externally assessed training under the wing of a skilled industry-recognized body gave me the confidence to take on these challenges and feel assured that I was ready for the task in hand. On-the-job CPD and upgrading skills As for the future, I’ve been wrestling with the issue of whether to upgrade my CIEP/SfEP membership status. For me this will mean undertaking more training courses, since I qualify on all other fronts. [Update 2020: I've now been an Advanced Professional Member of many years.] I’ve no doubt that further courses will provide me with new knowledge and provide excellent networking opportunities. But will I get more work? It depends on what that training is – if it involves ensuring I can mark-up onscreen, use the preferred software packages, and deliver my projects in new formats, then yes. Ian Antcliff at SAGE emphasizes how essential it is for freelancers to have up-to-date skill sets "with regard to both onscreen editing and Word, and also with ancillary software generally – Adobe, etc. – increasingly so as we move towards onscreen mark-up of proof PDFs". Talking to clients (or reading their blogs and tweets) about what their needs are, how the market is changing, and new ways of delivering our service may be just as informative as any course, and is probably the first thing we should do before deciding where to spend our hard-earned training cash. In a nutshell … So all in all, the message from my clients was that initial basic editorial training is more likely to get us noticed by publishers, but that it’s not the sole factor in determining whether they place us on their books. Experience counts for a lot, but so does flexibility over the formats in which we work. Continuing to update our skills in whatever way best suits the needs of our clients will give us the best chance of remaining their freelancers of choice. As for that £19.99 ebook course? It simply wouldn’t have cut the mustard. (With thanks to Edward Elgar, SAGE Publications, Ashgate, Polity, and Out of House Publishing for their generous contributions.)
Louise Harnby is a line editor, copyeditor and proofreader who specializes in working with crime, mystery, suspense and thriller writers.
She is an Advanced Professional Member of the Chartered Institute of Editing and Proofreading (CIEP), a member of ACES, a Partner Member of The Alliance of Independent Authors (ALLi), and co-hosts The Editing Podcast.
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Dafna Graf
20/6/2012 07:21:35 am
Thanks a lot for this post! which was directed to me via SfEP. As a 'newbie' in the field, I found it very informative - though not necessarily encouraging. It's part of being a newbie, not being able to show references (yet) ...
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20/6/2012 07:30:58 am
Hi Dafna. Thanks for your comment. Yes, it's tough at first. You could take a look at some of the other articles in the Starting Out archive. They may give you an idea of how to get work in the early stages of your career. One tactic that I highlight, for example, is to contact independent publishers who can't afford to buy in freelance services. That way you can get some experience, and an editorial references, all of which will help you in the longer term. Here's a Roundup that I posted recently with links to info you might find useful: http://louiseharnbyproofreading.weebly.com/4/category/starting%20out/1.html
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Dianne Cannon Wood
17/1/2013 10:23:42 am
I would have loved courses when I started out in this field in 1986, but there were almost no such available so it was all luck in getting that first in and then on-the-job, lots of reading of style manuals, and, really important, studying edited mss. Like so much else, proofreading was once more of an apprenticeship than a course of study, and I'm okay with that. I just hope we old warhorses aren't trampled in the rush to certification.
Thom Thomson
14/1/2014 01:11:06 pm
Who proofread that bit: "and an editorial references"?
Louise Harnby
14/1/2014 02:18:05 pm
You did, Thom - just now. I made a mistake when I was commenting. Happens to us all, especially when we're typing fast in response to colleagues' queries.
Nic
31/12/2012 04:52:00 am
I am glad I found your blog. I bought the £20 ebook you refer to as I thought it wasn't much to risk. However, having read your blog and had a look around the web I have decided to invest in the PTC course and I will join the SfEP shortly. I do however think the £20 ebook was informative and useful, so I don't think I wasted my money.
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Helen H
2/1/2013 08:13:47 am
I found this article really interesting. I have done a little editing in the legal field and obtained that work because of my legal qualification. However, I feel sure that a copyediting course would be very beneficial and plan to do one from a recognised body soon.
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Jessica
30/1/2013 11:31:01 am
I have MA in English and I am unsure about my next career move. I think that I might want to work as a copy writer or proof reading, and I realise that I will have to do unpaid work to begin. As I want to get a taste for this kind of work, I have been looking into courses. Although I don't want to waste my money. Is the PTC body the only way to go? Could you advise me whether this kind of course would be equally recognised or valued? It is a Proofreading and editing course CTJT diploma (ODLQC accredited).
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8/2/2013 12:29:32 pm
Hi Jessica. I'm looking into the courses too as my current line of work is taking it's toll on my joints. (I'm in the construction industry.)
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8/1/2015 05:28:31 am
This sounds interesting. I have never done a proofreading course yet and am actually a member of the CIM, yet I work for some pretty 'illustrious' clients, such as Google and Apple. I am always looking to improve my skills and am interested in joining a professional body such as SFEP, but I am daunted by the huge fees! I often wonder what 'AP style' is and imagine that I am missing out on something clever... 12/3/2014 06:36:20 am
Hi, I'm Cleland Thom, director of CTJT. I can vouch for our courses, but I would say that!
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Pauline
26/5/2015 08:03:27 am
I cannot find any independent reviews of the College of Media and publishing as CTJT are now known. The course appeals to me because of its content. Does anyone out there recommend it. Does it have the same profile in the big wide world as PTC?
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David Coventry
1/4/2016 06:33:20 am
Hi Pauline,
Olly Thom
6/4/2016 04:00:51 pm
Hi Pauline, you can see independent reviews here: http://www.hotcourses.com/uni-college-reviews/college-of-media-and-publishing-reviews/21952/ 5/11/2017 09:16:50 pm
Hi there,
Hi Louise,
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Louise Harnby
21/3/2013 05:09:50 am
Hi George! I couldn't agree more. There are many ways to train. Ultimately, it's the skills you learn that make you fit for purpose that count the most. Clients want to know that you can actually do the job, and having a familiarity with particular style guides such as Chicago, OSCOLA, APA and so on will be core, as will the ability to work with a variety of formats (paper, PDF, Word, for example).
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Kathy
6/3/2014 10:25:16 am
Hi Louise, I am interested in doing these courses, but which one would you recommend doing first? Thank you in advance, Kathleen Gee
Melissa
21/6/2013 07:27:10 pm
HI Louise,
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Louise Harnby
22/6/2013 05:02:17 am
Hi Melissa - you might start by reading my book, Business Planning for Editorial Freelancers and by joining your national editorial society.and seeing what they advise (links to both can be found on the Resources tab in the black ribbon above). You could also look at the Starting Out archive on this blog (scroll down the sidebar here on The Proofreader's Parlour and look for the Archives list).
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Teri
20/9/2013 08:13:36 pm
I am still not sure what you guys in the UK need for working in proofreading but just one good course from a local university and I hit some of the freelance websites to get experience and I am on my way. It does take due diligence but any thing worth having usually does. Good Luck in your quest and God Bless from "across the pond" :).
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Rick L
3/10/2013 10:37:56 am
I really appreciate your input. May I ask your advice? How reasonable would it be for someone to investigate this field as a second career (after retirement). I have a good command, and indeed a love for the proper use of the English language. I am more than willing to take a course and start at the bottom.
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Louise Harnby
3/10/2013 10:57:17 am
Hi Rick. I think it's a career that's open to anyone who's prepared to learn the skills that will make them fit for purpose and who is prepared to carry out the necessary planning and development that any new business requires. Go for it!
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rick Lee
11/10/2013 12:35:11 pm
Thanks for the encouragement Louise. I am in the USA and am wondering if a UK course would have any advantages for me. I need a good, solid online course......any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Jerry Jasinski
25/11/2013 08:54:01 am
Can you please tell me what the most recognized accreditation is for a proof reader?
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Louise Harnby
25/11/2013 08:59:46 am
Different countries recognize different courses, Jerry. Where do you live? Probably the best thing to do is contact your national editorial society to see which courses they recommend: http://www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/editing--proofreading-societies.html
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Jane Evans
3/3/2014 08:55:38 am
Hi,
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Louise Harnby
3/3/2014 11:34:07 am
Hi Jane. It's Basic Proofreading by Distance Learning: http://www.train4publishing.co.uk/courses/distance-learning/basic-proofreading
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Maria Ch
30/11/2016 09:56:04 am
Sadly that site is now defunct, it no longer exists.
Maria
30/11/2016 10:41:07 am
Not sure if my previous comment passed, but I found in the meantime the new web address for this course by Anne Waddingham. I I am not mistaken, it is at: https://www.publishingtrainingcentre.co.uk/courses/self-study/beginner-level-courses/item/basic-proofreading
Louise Harnby
7/3/2014 01:28:10 am
Hi Kathy. It all depends. If you're not completely sure whether an editorial freelancing career is for you, try one of the SfEP's introductory online courses. If you are sure that you want to pursue this, go for the PTC's distance learning courses. You'll also need to thin about whether you want to copy-edit, proofread, or both. They're different things and the SfEP website has some super guidelines about what each entails.
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12/3/2014 01:13:12 pm
Hi Louise,
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Victor
15/3/2014 08:39:28 am
I would really like to get the accreditation for being certified in ProofWriting. I have questions about your creditialing. In your first paragraph, you end one sentence, insert the period and then start the new sentence with 'And'. That is improper grammar. At the beginning of the next paragraph, you should have put a comma after 2005. I continued to read the full article and found more similar problems through-out. In the last paragraph, you should have put a comma after the word 'So, all in all...' Sorry, no sale here.
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Louise Harnby
15/3/2014 10:45:24 am
Hi Victor. Not sure what you meant by "no sale". I wasn't trying to sell anything, certainly not information on "ProofWriting" as you call it. I'm a proofreader, which is very different from a copywriter (I assume that's what you meant).
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Seta J
25/9/2015 04:58:42 am
I love it.....Thank you so much for this information, Louise. I'm intent was to find out the path of success for my 14 year old sophomore, who is verbally similar to Victor. She is about to begin taking AP classes in English to have her Associate degree when she graduates. What else can she do/or I do to stay on track? 23/1/2018 06:42:44 am
TKO in the second round! Hahahaha! Fabulous response!
margot
27/3/2014 02:16:02 pm
I wish folks like Victor would just back off! How dare you try to 'one up' Louise by finding fault! I very much appreciate your advice, Louise, and think I may follow-up on taking the course. Congratulations on your success!
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Elizabeth
30/3/2019 01:30:04 pm
Hello Louise. I am considering taking a course on proofreading and have read with interest all your comments and suggestions. I also agree with Alison? /Margot?, that comments by Victor regarding your grammar is not at all helpful in this context. I also agree with your reply. I shall read up more about the various courses and hope with your suggestions I will be able to take the plunge. I shall be 78 this year but daresay there is no time like the present. Thank you for your clear explanations.
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Louise Harnby
30/3/2019 03:09:16 pm
No age restrictions on being an editor, Elizabeth! Welcome to our community!
Alison
3/4/2014 11:06:58 am
Excellent site and resource, thank you! I am returning to the fold of proofreading after a lengthy absence, during which online editing, etc., seems to have become more widely used. As something of a techno 'idiot', this is rather worrying. So it is immensely reassuring to me to come across this site with such an abundance of tips and information. I'm (anxiously) about to embark on my first job after more than 12 years. And (which of course can be used to start a sentence....!) to be sent it in PDF format as well as the hard copy is - to me - rather bewildering. Is this now standard? I am worried about my speed and technical skills so hope that I can meet and fulfil all expectations. I'll check the posts on site to see if you have any specific posts about web editing, for future reference, but if you have any particular recommendations, I'd be very grateful. (I've been given a 'friend of a friend's' novel to copy-edit, too, and this I find rather a daunting task, partly because the grammar is poor. I am beginning to wonder whether I've taken on too much, at this stage...)
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Louise Harnby
4/4/2014 02:47:01 am
Hi Alison!
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Alison
4/4/2014 09:03:22 am
Thank you!
Anita
13/5/2014 07:58:24 am
Hello Alison
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Anita
13/5/2014 08:40:24 am
Oh dear! I meant to say hello to Louise, not Alison!
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Louise Harnby
13/5/2014 08:49:13 am
No worries, Anita. Happens to us all! This is an informal space where mistakes are overlooked and discussion is welcome!
Jaymi
10/12/2014 08:56:28 am
Hi Louise,
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Louise Harnby
11/12/2014 03:11:04 am
Hi Jaymi.
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David
6/1/2015 05:01:59 am
Hello Louise,
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Louise Harnby
6/1/2015 06:10:08 am
Hi David.
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Anoushaa
3/3/2015 01:09:03 am
Hi David - did you sign up to Chapterhouse Publishing in the end? If so, what did you make of the course? I've just signed up to the proof reading and copy editing seminar but now wondering whether or not I should go with PTC / SfEP instead?
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Louise Harnby
11/8/2015 06:55:43 am
I suggest you contact the Editorial Freelancers Association. I'm based in the UK so I'm not best placed to answer this. Also, you might look on Facebook at the Editors' Association of Earth: https://www.facebook.com/groups/442424952497363/. There are plenty of Americans in this group who will be able to give you better guidance than I can!
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Elsa
13/8/2015 02:03:29 pm
Hi Louise.
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Louise Harnby
14/8/2015 11:05:33 am
Hello, Elsa.
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Nikki
15/8/2015 03:19:29 am
Hi Louise
Elsa
15/8/2015 05:32:50 am
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Louise Harnby
28/8/2015 09:48:04 am
Hi Elsa,
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Louise Harnby
28/8/2015 09:52:03 am
Hi Nikki,
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12/9/2015 10:03:20 am
This is well-argued in respect of the logic employed. Sadly the errors in the article undermine the author's authority.
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Louise Harnby
14/9/2015 03:17:42 pm
Paul, in response to your comment:
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Louise Harnby
14/9/2015 03:19:23 pm
[continued from my reply above - Weebly wouldn't allow me to post this replyin full owing to space restrictions]
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Jeannette
9/12/2015 09:44:30 pm
Hi Louise,
Carmen
15/10/2015 01:40:53 am
Hi Louise
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Lauren
25/3/2016 03:41:32 am
Hi Carmen,
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Louise Harnby
25/3/2016 10:55:14 am
My advice to both of you would be to contact the IPEd and seek its guidance.
Lauren
25/3/2016 11:19:29 pm
From IPEd:
Louise Harnby
26/3/2016 01:42:12 am
Why not email some of the IPEd's accredited and distinguished editors? They're all people who have passed the accreditation exam and may well be able to advise you on the courses they found most useful. I see that the IPEd does provide a list of suggested reference sources, including Butcher's, and it provides some sample tests (see the preparation information under the accreditation section).
Natalie Hughes
28/12/2015 04:11:55 pm
Hi Louise
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Louise Harnby
29/12/2015 10:04:56 am
Hi Natalie. I see no reason at all why you shouldn't work with clients beyond Ireland's borders. I'm based in the UK and have worked for clients in England, Scotland, Ireland, the USA, Sweden, Spain, Germany, China, the Netherlands and Denmark. Of course, being Irish will be a great USP when promoting yourself to Irish clients who want to work with someone who is also Irish or based in Ireland. The Association of Freelance Editors, Proofreaders & Indexers (http://www.afepi.ie/ - Ireland's national editorial society) and Publishing Ireland (which represents the Irish publishing industry) both recognize the PTC training courses. Much editorial work is done onscreen these days, so where you live is not the obstacle it might have been 20 years ago. The key will be ensuring that you are discoverable to your potential clients, wherever they live, so make sure you plan an active marketing strategy. I'd recommend you get in touch with the AFEPI as a first step. That will enable you to network with other Irish editorial professionals who've already taken the journey that you're contemplating. The SfEP is the UK's national editorial society but we have lots of Irish members and very close links to the AFEPI, so that may also be something you'd like to consider joining at some stage. Good luck!
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El
17/1/2016 01:47:50 pm
Thanks for everyone's honesty on here. I too am interested in embarking upon a freelance career in either proof-reading or copy-editing (preferably both).
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Lizzie
25/2/2016 04:03:18 am
I've just realised that after finding this blog/wibbly wobbly website, nearly 2 hours have passed - it's almost 4am! Just goes to how interesting and informative it has been.
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Theresa
2/3/2016 12:14:55 pm
Hmmm… I was looking at this website to determine if it would be worthwhile for an experienced editor/proofreader to join the SFEP. I've worked for three decades in the publishing business, half of that time in-house in both the UK and the USA and the other half freelance at home in the UK. I've worked with many of the leading publishing companies, specializing in illustrated reference books, and I've watched the industry slowly shrink in size. I'm still not sure if membership with the SFEP would be beneficial.
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Louise Harnby
2/3/2016 04:58:11 pm
I like the membership for the companionship, Theresa. I enjoy the local group meetings, and the chit-chat, professional and for fun, on Facebook, the SfEP forum, etc. There are many members who are highly experienced, but all feel there's always something new to learn. Having a ready-made bank of fellow professionals at one's fingertips is rather helpful in that respect! On the other hand, I have other colleagues who aren't members, and, like you, they get along just fine without it. It's a great networking opportunity, that's for sure. You could always pop along to one of the local-group meetings and see whether you enjoy it - non-members are welcome to attend three times before member-only rules kick in. Just an idea to consider ...
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Gehan Wijesinghe
16/3/2016 03:50:28 pm
Hi Louise,
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Louise harnby
1/4/2016 11:38:53 am
Hi Gehan. I can only recommend those training institutions I have experience of. It would be like giving an opinion on a Renault Clio when I've only ever driven a Ford Focus. The SfEP has reviewed a range of courses. I'd recommend asking its training director for advice about the WB.
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Louis
30/8/2016 03:54:41 pm
Hi Louise,
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Louise Harnby
30/8/2016 05:32:06 pm
Hi Louis.
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Dyne Chennoth
12/9/2016 07:14:40 pm
Is there any specific difference in taking up proof reading and copy editing course as some adverts showcase the need for both to be successful. Please advise...
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Louise Harnby
13/9/2016 12:02:37 pm
Hi Dyne.
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Jennifer Sienna
20/9/2016 01:27:30 pm
Thank you for all this great information. I really appreciate your effort.
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Rhea L
12/10/2016 05:54:44 pm
Hi there,
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Steve
17/3/2017 01:31:59 pm
I've had experience of Chapterhouse. It's cheap and you get what you pay for - cheap!
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Jon V
18/10/2016 03:15:09 pm
Hi Louise
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Louise Harnby
18/10/2016 03:29:14 pm
Both organizations are well regarded, Jon. The difference is the the PTC is a single course, whereas the SfEP equivalence would require three different steps. You might contact the SfEP's training director for advice on what would best suit your needs at this stage of your transition. I can't specifically recommend a particular route, as I've only done the PTC course myself - the SfEP's distance-learning courses had yet to be developed when I set up my proofreading business!
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Teri
5/11/2016 04:15:25 pm
Hi Louise,
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Teri
9/11/2016 09:12:42 pm
Hi Louise,
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Ben Masters
30/11/2016 04:11:45 pm
I just wanted to express my gratitude for all the time and thought that have gone into the comments above. It's addictive reading certainly and hugely useful. And Louise's reply to good old Victor was great stuff. Having taught English - and a few young Victors - for the last nineteen years, I am now looking to start up a career proofreading and copy-editing and will certainly return to this blog down the line. Her book for new-starters should arrive at my door next week.
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Louise Harnby
22/2/2017 02:35:35 pm
Cheers, Ben!
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Shilpa
19/12/2016 06:56:38 am
Hello Louise,
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Louise Harnby
22/2/2017 02:46:03 pm
I think you need to check the syllabus for each. SEF is a business-planning course. It doesn't aim to teach and test your technical skills regarding editing or proofreading, which is that the SfEP and courses do. SEF's financial, tax and business advice also apply to the UK only.
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Tia
5/1/2018 01:25:00 pm
Hi Louise,
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Louise Harnby
5/1/2018 03:34:43 pm
Hi, Tia! Check out the Publishing Training Centre's flagship online courses too. I trained with them back in 2005, though the course content has kept up with the times so there's more on digital workflows now. You're already in touch with the SfEP so that's great too. Check out the Q&A and training archives on the blog for more posts about my course recommendations, and about transitioning from other careers. Good luck!
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Sam Kelly
6/3/2018 08:14:16 pm
Hi Louise. I realise this post is several years old, but I just wanted to pop in and say thank you. I came across this post in early 2016, when looking for advice on how to start out, and it prompted me to sign up for the Publishing Training Centre's Basic Proofreading by Distance Learning course. I completed that course last week (with a distinction), and yesterday I was accepted as an entry-level member of the SfEP.
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Louise Harnby
6/3/2018 10:36:10 pm
Sam! Whoop! That's superb news. I'm so pleased for you. Congratulations on your huge success. You are ready for market. Go for it! xxxx
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Sam Kelly
6/3/2018 10:52:59 pm
Thanks! I'll be going through your Getting Noticed and Starting Out series later tonight, I think!
Alison
22/9/2019 05:55:32 pm
Thank you for this informative post. I am looking to become a freelance proofreader within the medical sciences field. I was a hospital doctor for 12 years but stopped working in 2011 to bring up my children. I would also like to investigate proofreading material around my hobby interests- cooking, crochet, dogs and chickens! I am excited at the prospect of learning new skills and using my brain again.....and earning a little money, hopefully. I intend to write to a couple of medical journal publications asking for advice regarding some work experience and their requirements for freelance proofreaders.
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Louise Harnby
22/9/2019 07:07:25 pm
Hi, Alison. Medical editing is a thing! Using Google is your best bet. That will help you locate relevant editor websites, organizations and training. Perhaps join some of the editing Facebook groups and browse the resources in there ... and start networking. There is also advice in this excellent resource hub: http://www.kokedit.com/ckb_2.php. And for medical editing training, try https://www.sfep.org.uk/training/choose-a-course/medical-editing/ or https://www.bels.org/become-a-board-certified-editor. I think that's probably a better first step than going direct to people who don't know you and who may already have published advice online. They won't have to reinvent the wheel!
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Oge
16/5/2020 02:05:16 am
Hello Lousie, thanks a lot for this very informative post. I'm now looking to do an online proofreading course before joining the SfEP. The challenge I'm however faced with, is which of the proofreading and editing courses to take between that offered by the Centre for Excellence and that of the College of Media and Publishing, both in the UK. Any advice on which would serve me more?
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Louise Harnby
17/5/2020 01:13:16 pm
I haven't worked with either of those providers so I can't help you make that decision. Sorry!
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Aysen Slack
23/6/2020 09:56:03 pm
Dear Louise,
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Louise Harnby
23/6/2020 10:16:12 pm
Hi, Aysen,
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Aysen
24/6/2020 04:05:53 pm
Thanks Louise for such a swift reply. I think I will simplify things and just opt for SfEP (CIEP) membership + training!
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Laura
23/11/2020 10:15:12 pm
Dear Louise,
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Louise Harnby
24/11/2020 08:44:00 am
I couldn't say, Laura, as I've not done any training with the CMP, only the PTC and CIEP. I recommend you check the syllabuses and decide which provider suits your needs best.
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Rachel Lambert
15/2/2023 01:17:27 pm
Another one posting here to say thank you for the incredible work that's gone into this.
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This article raises an important question about the value of formal training in proofreading and editing. The article cites different publishers' opinions on the matter and highlights the pros and cons of investing in training courses. Ultimately, the article suggests that while formal training can be useful, practical experience and a keen eye for detail are equally important in the field of proofreading and editing. Overall, the article provides valuable insights for anyone considering pursuing a career in editing and proofreading.
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Thank you for the insightful post; I found it both helpful and engaging. I’m considering taking some courses but am unsure where to start. Has anyone had any experience with Chapterhouse Publishing’s proofreading and copy editing courses? I’d love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
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